'MobLand's Tom Hardy and Joanne Froggatt React to Their Surprising Season 2 Premiere Twist

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Editor's Note: The following contains spoilers for MobLand Season 2 Episode 1.MobLand is officially back on Paramount+, and the Guy Ritchie series is pushing the boundaries once again as the Harrigans are slowly unravelling in the wake of the events of Season 1. Season 2 puts every Harrigan in opposition to the other with Tom Hardy's Harry Da Souza bouncing between family members and trying to keep everything together, cautious of the coming threats from Kat McAllister (Janet McTeer), who is ready to take advantage of the family while they're at their weakest. The premiere of Season 2 sees Conrad (Pierce Brosnan) taking drastic measures and murdering a bunch of gangsters after a deal goes wrong, leaving Harry to clean up the mess during a therapy session with Jan (Joanne Froggatt). This is the final straw for Jan, who sends Harry divorce papers and tells him it's too late to fix the marriage.
Collider sat down with MobLand's Hardy and Froggatt to discuss this latest development in the Da Souzas' lives as well as the fact that Gina (Teddie Allen), their daughter, is now getting involved with Eddie (Anson Boon) and a new side of the business. Froggatt breaks down Jan's feelings about their separation and what it would take for her to come back together with Harry. Hardy discusses Harry's loyalty and what might cause that loyalty to ultimately falter. The two also discuss where they stand with Gina and her new business with Eddie and what makes the Da Souzas a normal family in their heightened world.
'MobLand's Joanne Froggatt Reveals Whether Jan Would Ever Take Harry Back
"I don't even think it's like taking Harry back, I don't think she's ever really fully left him."
COLLIDER: Joanne, Jan presents Harry with divorce papers in the season, which I think is very fair.
TOM HARDY: Wow.
What do you think Jan's mindset is going into this season, and would she ever take back Harry if he was to leave the Harrigans?
JOANNE FROGGATT: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think she would absolutely take back Harry. I don't even think it's like taking Harry back; I don't think she's ever really fully left him. They have this bond that is, other than the sort of romantic sides of a marriage, and they have this history together. They're always going to be linked; they have a child, she knows where all the bodies are buried, metaphorically and literally. She knows so much about him, and he knows so much about her. Of course, if Harry turned around at any point said, "Come on then, let's run off to the sunshine and leave all this behind," she be like, "Finally, that's what I've been waiting for."
But she also comes to a realization, she realizes that's not going to happen. And then she has this real crossroads of like, "Okay, that's not going to happen. So what do I do? What do I do with myself? What do I do with my life? I need something in my life." Her daughter's growing up. Her husband's emotionally unavailable and usually unavailable. She needs something. She needs some connection; she needs something to aspire to, some a passion, anything, and she has to find it.
Tom Hardy Breaks Down Harry's Complicated Loyalty in 'MobLand'
"I don't think we really know how loyal he is or where, because we're only in Season 2."
I think Harry's loyalty has always been a hallmark of his character. Obviously in Season 2, Tom, we see that loyalty is also one of the reasons that Jan asks for a divorce, because he is so loyal to the Harrigans. But as Conrad seems to be slowly unraveling, is that loyalty still there?
HARDY: I've never really seen him be— the interpretation of loyalty is interesting, because I think he's also loyal to Jan. I think he's loyal to Gina. I think he's loyal to himself. I think he's loyal to Conrad in his own way. I think he would be done with Conrad when the natural time slips and run with someone like Kevin. I think the loyalty that he has is to some architectural construction within his own ethical framework, that at the moment it seems to be leaning towards Conrad. And yeah, he is loyal by all intents and purposes, by most people's standards, because he has a capacity to continue his focus, his companionship in service, but I don't think we really know how loyal he is or where, because we're only in Season 2.
I don't think you know what the deeper version of what that proximity, or the essential nature of his relationship, is to be so close to Conrad — what the nature of that is. Is it just blind loyalty? He doesn't strike me as somebody who has an innate dog-like, like Firs in The Cherry Orchard. No, is it the dog in The Cherry Orchard? Firs is the servant, isn't he? And he lays down with the house and dies at the end when they all leave the house. I don't think he's the eternal servant that we imagine that he is. And I certainly don't think he's aspirational and ambitious to be a king. There's something about him that I haven't really worked out. I think neither has Jan either, I think but his hyperfocus on something is innate, specifically to him, and yes, it looks like loyalty for sure, but a pirate is only loyal to one thing.
Hardy and Froggatt Talk Gina and the Da Souza Family's Changes in Season 2
"It's an unconscious precipice, really, that I think only happens in the spring awakening of a child to womanhood."
Speaking of their family dynamic and Gina, she is off with Eddie in this season, which I can imagine is a headache for both of your characters. Joanne, how cautious is Jan of the Harrigans and with her own experience with bad boys, how worried is she about trying to get Gina out of that situation?
FROGGATT: Jan is worried about Gina, obviously, as a mother would be, but Jan is also taking responsibility for the fact that this is the life they've shown her and however much they've tried to put her in the good school, the good private school, given her the opportunities that neither Jan or Harry probably had, you learn by... What's the word I'm trying to look for? You learn by...
HARDY: They say kids do what their parents do, not what they.
FROGGATT: Yes, you know, by example. Gina is now old enough to—
HARDY: She can pick it up unconsciously as well.
FROGGATT: Yeah.
HARDY: You may say one thing, but the kid can sense there's another world. And then naturally, they're going to investigate that to see what the lies are. And that's the threat. So she's going towards the darkness, and we can see that.
FROGGATT: And I think that breaks Jan's heart. And I think what breaks Jan's heart about it is her culpability in it. Her knowing that this is the life she's brought her daughter into.
HARDY: My concern is if she's going into that, she's got to be good about it. You know, there are rules to that. You have either an apprenticeship or you have a protector role in the binary. So we've got to withdraw this. But to withdraw it, then we'd be lying our whole lives because we created a fantasy at home. And if we give her an apprenticeship, then we've thrown her to the wolves. So it's an unconscious precipice, really, that I think only happens in the spring awakening of a child to womanhood.
Now she's no longer under the canopy of the protection of the fantasy of childhood. She's asking questions, and she can leave home. And that's largely gone unsaid because it's not daddy's little princess anymore; it's something other. And we are now responsible and accountable. I think accountability and responsibility comes in waves for this family. And as soon as they activate it, again, it's another case of do what I say, not as I do. And when we start living the reality of it, it becomes extremely painful and hard to navigate and often denied and dismissed, and we avoid it. Anyone else recognize that kind of framework? Not me!
FROGGATT: [Laughs] I'm not saying anything!
HARDY: I'm not distracted by anything! I don't get distracted.
Yeah, no, this is not our therapy session.
HARDY: At the same time, I think that's the game that we're playing within those characters; we sort of pull apart and tease with Jan and Harry. It's like good lord, how would that work? And also, Jan and Harry are really, paradoxically, they're kind of the most normal family within this heightened world. It's a comic book element to some of the fabricated violence and stuff that is going on within London. So, it's quite heightened too, and yet the whole piece somehow works as a world of its own. So I think Jan and Harry had a really interesting opportunity to play within that world, create a very natural, normal scene in a quite bonkers world.
- Release Date
- March 30, 2025
- Network
- Paramount+
- Directors
- Daniel Syrkin
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